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Latest comment: 9 տարի առաջ by Eurofan88 in topic Not only Armenian song

Edit war by Interfase խմբագրել

User Interfase, it's already like life aim for you to add this picture in this article. Actually that picture has nothing to do with the article but you're continuing to add it. This isn't the Azerbaijani Wikipedia for you where every Armenian thing you can qualify as Azerbaijani. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing.

Հարգելի ադմիններ, խնդրում եմ արեք որևե բան, քանի որ այս ադրբեջանցի մասնակիցը ամեն կերպ փորձում է այդ լուսանկարը պահել հոդվածում: --Eurofan88 (քննարկում) 14:51, 3 Սեպտեմբերի 2014 (UTC)Պատասխանել

Not only Armenian song խմբագրել

Actually there is only two free photos related to this song. You can find them in Commons. Both are with Alim Gasimov, who performs this song. Sari Gelin song is not only Armenian as you think. It is also Azerbaijani and Turkish. And even most reliable source Dilaver Duzgen, who is specialist on Turkic folklore says that this song has Turkic origin[1]. Only in Armenian Wikipedia this song is presented that only Armenian. But in other Wikipedias there is neutral point of view. --Interfase (քննարկում) 21:20, 4 Հոկտեմբերի 2014 (UTC)Պատասխանել

The Azerbaijani article just says that it's an Azerbaijani folk song which is also popular in Iran and Turkey, but then also says that it gained popularity in Armenia in recent years. The Armenian article notes that it's an Armenian song which is also popular in Iran, Turkey and Azerbaijan. So don't you see the neutral point of view? And what's the point if there's a free picture then we must use it. Flora Martirosyan and Alim Gasimov both are different artists and their performances are from different concerts. If you see similarities between those pictures then it's your problem. --Eurofan88 (քննարկում) 21:42, 4 Հոկտեմբերի 2014 (UTC)Պատասխանել
We don't discuss the page in Azerbaijani wikipedia. I don't edit there. We discuss the situation on this Wikipedia. If you had the rules in Armenian Wikipedia you will not describe the song as "Armenian polupated in..." Because the sources which say about the Turkic origin of this song will not be ignored. Also in normal Wikipedias free images are used if they are exist. And even so the differences between Martirosayn's and Gasimov's performances doesn't give you a reason to remove the picture where Gasimov performs this song. --Interfase (քննարկում) 21:58, 4 Հոկտեմբերի 2014 (UTC)Պատասխանել
I mentioned about the Azerbaijani Wikipedia because you said in other Wikipedias there's neutral point of view, i mean come on isn't Azerbaijani a part of those "other Wikipedias"? Well no need to explain it once again because you know it much better why those picturec should not be here as i told you on the Russian Wikipedia. Martirosyan's picture is more preferred for the Armenian Wikipedia and if those pictures of Gasimov's performances are free it doesn't mean we should use them. Every Wikipedia has its politics. --Eurofan88 (քննարկում) 07:58, 5 Հոկտեմբերի 2014 (UTC)Պատասխանել

references խմբագրել

  1. Dilaver Düzgün. Erzurum Çarşı Pazar (tur.) // «Milli Folklor» : International and Quarterly Journal of Folklore. — Summer 2003. — v. 8. — p. 84. — ISSN 1300-3984.

    Çalislmamizin sonunda verilen kaynakçanın taranması, sarı, sarı kız, sarı gelin sözlerinin Anadolu’da, Balkanlarda, hatta Özbek, Kazak, Türkmen, Tatar sahaları gibi genifl Türk coğrafyasında okunan halk ezgilerinde ne kadar yoğun bir biçimde yer aldığını göstermektedir. Ayrıca Türk mitolojisinde sarı rengin önemli bir motif olarak kullanıldığını da belirtmek gerekir... «Erzurum çarşı pazar» türküsü, bütünüyle bize aittir. Ezgisi, yapısı, konusu, bütün yönleriyle Türk halk kültürünün bir ürünü olduğu muhakkaktır.

The users who added non-free photos broke the rules of Wikipedia (if they are exist in Armenian Wikipedia?). Anyway the rules of Russian and English Wikipedias say that if there is available free photos we must use them, no non-free photos. And I showed you that we have these photos, but you don't like them, because the performer is Azerbaijani. --Interfase (քննարկում) 21:25, 4 Հոկտեմբերի 2014 (UTC)Պատասխանել

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